e-mail+to+Jackson+Laboratory+and+John+Schloendorn+about+obtaining+old+mice+11-8-12

e-mail found here: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&shva=1#label/Career/13add2fa308b8de2

Good afternoon and thank you for your inquiry. We have aged mice in our C57BL/6J mouse line, stock number 000664 for the males. These are aged up to 16 months old or 65 weeks of age. Pricing at this age is $171.65 per mouse. The price of this same strain at 4 months old, or 16 weeks of age, is $37.70 per mouse. BALB/cJ mice, stock number 000651 are only sold up to 15 weeks old, and that is for females at $33.00 per mouse. The oldest we sell males of this strain is 10 weeks old due to the males of this strain becoming very aggressive. The price at this age is $23.10. If you are interested in older mice we may have you talk to our JAX Mice Services Team and they will age the colony up to the ages you desire.

The costs of the aged mice, example, C57BL/6J, has to do with other issues like health and husbandry for these animals, food, water, animal care, etc.,...which I am sure you can appreciate.

Another option is that you may want to look into our retired breeders. C57BL/6J retired breeder females are $18.36 per mouse and retired breeder males are $17.01 per mouse. These mice are between 7-9 months old and you receive the month and year they are born on day of shipment. The key to remember in ordering retired breeders is for males we may only ship mice per shipping box...so shipping would be your freight cost plus the shipping container. Each shipping box is $13.00 and freight cost to your facility is $59.00 per shipping box.

Retired breeder price for BALB/cJ mice, stock number 000651, is $17.91 for the females and $17.68. I am not sure what the month age range is but it would be approximately the same as the C57BL/6J strain.

I hope this helps you and if you have more questions please let us know.

Thanks so much and have a nice day,

Laurie Davis

Customer Service Representative JAX Mice & Services The Jackson Laboratory 610 Main St. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 USA Tel: 1-800-422-6423 Fax: 1-207-288-6150 Email: orderquest@jax.org) Web: www.jax.org/jaxmice See @http://engage.jax.org/catalogRequest for new prices.

-Original Message- From: kurtwhittemore@gmail.com [mailto:kurtwhittemore@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 5:58 PM To: orderquest Subject: price of ordering old mice

email: kurtwhittemore@gmail.com realname: sort: order:ext2,secr,ext3,lastname, ext4,company,email,UPROFCLS,phone1,fax,subject,CallDesc radio: ext2mr secr: Kurt lastname: Whittemore UPROFCLS: Graduate Student company: Arizona State University phone1: 480-559-9781 fax: attnto: Tech_SVC CallDesc: I would like to know information about the price difference between ordering old and young mice. I believe that typical lab mice usually live a few months past 2 years. I am interested in ordering some mice a few months before they die for some aging related studies. What would the price difference be for ordering a BALB/c mouse that is finished sexually maturing (maybe 4 months old) compared to an old mouse that is about 1 year and 10 months old? Thanks for any information you can offer me!

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Here's John Schloendorn's response found here https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&shva=1#label/Career/13add4fa195d5fc4

We went with retired breeders for the scrubbing project. As she says, they're not very old, but were sufficient for our purposes. These guys are the angriest mice i've ever seen. Maybe that's because they liked their job a lot and aren't into this being retired business at all.

If you need them older than that, I think you're stuck with something reasonably close to the options she offers.

You could consider contacting NIA for their stocks. I think that's the broadest choices available at any single place. @http://www.nia.nih.gov/research/scientific-resources. But you're gonna be looking at a little bit of red tape, and will have to pay something close to the commercial providers too. But they might have something the other guys' don't, like extremely, very old critters.